I don't believe that Brad Pitt is a hero. Maybe he has done some things worth merit, but in my mind, he doesn't really deserve the title 'hero'. At the same time, one who is just a man to some, could be a hero to others. I don't think Tiger Woods is a hero, either. I think he is a bad influence on youth. He has a very strong hold of the public. He is rich, famous, and well-loved, but he doesn't do anything with all his advantages. Even be for his whole cheating-on-his-wife incident, I disliked him. He's always acted like a stuck-up pig on the golf course, cussing and throwing tirades when he doesn't get his way. I don't think he is a hero at all. Jack Horner has done a lot for modern society, made a lot of discoveries and is well known, but I don't know if I would consider him a hero. Maybe he would be by some standards, but not necessarily by mine. I think Nelson Mandela is a hero, though. He helped to stop apartheid and helped the people of South Africa greatly. Without him, there would be many things still wrong with that country, that aren't anymore. In my eyes, Nelson Mandela is a hero, but the rest of these men aren't.
Nelson Mandela and Jack Horner are heroes to me. Brad Pitt and Tiger Woods are just idols, things that people worship, that they wish they were, people who people compare themselves to. Nelson Mandela is a hero to me because he went out of his comfort zone to help people less fortunate who needed him. Jack Horner is a professor at Missoula, he discovered archaeological facts about species of animals that lived before man. Jack is a Montana born man who became something, who has inspired people to do what they may think is impossible, follow their dreams. The more i am thinking about this the more i realize in their own way each of these men are heroes, they inspire people to believe in themselves and do what makes them happy, even if the cost is high. Even though i many see Pitt and Woods more as idolic icons, others may disagree with me, but i do not care for in a small way they are heroes. My definition of Hero is someone or thing that someone looks up to. So yes they are heroes yet, they are not. It is more of a mental aspect, if one person thinks someone is something then to their minds eye it is true, even if it varies for another person. A PERSON'S OPINION IS THEIR OWN!!! Personally they are all heroes in one aspect or another of MY mind.
Personally i would like to remain neutral, i agree yet disagree with what Melanie has said. Yes i can see how Pitt, Woods, and Horner would not be heroes and Mandela would be, yet i also see all of them as heroes. They could have or will impact a person's life and in that persons mind define them as Heroes, i also understand that in your eyes three out of the four are not heroes and i am not discrediting your opinion, merely adding my own opinion in as a non-biased party. I do understand where you are coming from in the 75% non-hero aspect, part of me wants to just say Woods is not a hero yet to some he might be.
I beleive that in society, sometimes we have a way of picking bad representation of the virtures, and qualties we admire, and strive to be. Brad Pitt, and Tiger Woods are one of them. They can someone's heros dependig on the qualities you admire, and who you strive to be. But like all heroes when it comes down to thier personal life, they mess up ...quite frequently. They are just idealistic reprentations of what we actually admire. I hav to say that Nelson Mandela has always been a hero to me, his life work, and his ideas about life. He may not show physical strength, and be a smokin hunk, but he's a hero within his words. My favorite quote of his is. " It always seems impossible, untill its done." He's amazing.
I agree with Melanie, that Sam about a hero being someone to helps a person pursue thier goals in life. INSPIRATION....< isn't that what a hero does?? Serve as a role model for other people?? It just so happens that Heroes are human too, and mess up....just like everybody else...its how you get back up and try to do right of your wrongs that you become a real hero. I think these people show how we can become heroes ourselves.
these pictures show the modern day hero in a different perspective to others the older pictures show the older people who actually did something important while brad pitt is just a movie actor who is portrayed as a hero in the movies that he has stared in.
I think that any of these men could be considered heroes depending on who is talking. I don't really think Brad Pitt or Tiger Woods are heroes by my standards, but someone else could percieve them as heroes. I don't consider Brad Pitt a hero because in my opinion, he hasn't done anything very spectacular. Tiger Woods definitely isn't a hero because of how he treated his wife. I have no respect for people who cheat on their significant other. Jack Horner is a hero because he has done so much work trying to learn how life was in the past. He has helped other people to discover dinosaurs and to achieve their dreams which is huge to me. Nelson Mandela is definitely a hero for his work with humanity. He has made a difference in so many lives in South America and has spent his life influencing others in a positive manner.
I think that any of these men could be perceived as heroes by the right person, but I only feel that Nelson Mandela and Jack Horner are heroes. Brad Pitt isn't one of my heroes because all he can do is act well. This has done nothing for humans except provide entertainment. Tiger Woods isn't one of my heroes because he cheated on his wife. This is unacceptable to me and I lost all respect for him when I heard about this. This is one of the important virtues to become a hero in my eyes. Jack Horner is a hero because of the work that he has done to explain life on earth before humans. He has helped many people to achieve their dreams in finding dinosaurs. He has also spoken to different groups of kids and has inspired them to achieve their dreams. Nelson Mandela is a hero because he has spent his life promoting equality in South Africa. This dedication to making lives better is definitely a hero trait.
I agree with Sam that any of these men could be heroes to different people. Brad Pitt could be looked up to by aspiring actors for his acting skills. He has also adopted and helped the lives of children. Tiger Woods could be admired for his golfing skills. Jack Horner has helped to inspire people to achieve their dreams. Nelson Mandela is a hero for his work with humanity in South Africa. It just depends on every person's opinion of whether or not a person is a hero. Any person could be a hero to someone, while most of the world has never heard of him. Heroes are interesting in the fact that any ordinary person can become a hero in an instant, while deities are known from birth in stories.
I agree with Ettje about Nelson Mandela being a hero. However, I disagree with her about Tiger Woods and Brad Pitt. Maybe some people might see those two men as heroes, but that doesn't mean they have heroic qualities. I agree that everyone messes up, but what makes a hero is someone that messes up, but still does good for society. Someone that people want to say, "despite those few mistakes, I still want to be like him". I don't think people could honestly say that for either of those two men, because they don't really have enough positive attributes to outweigh their bad. Also, most people would just want to be like them because they are famous and rich, and that isn't what makes a hero.
I think it all depends on how you look at these men and what they have done. Once you look at them and see what they have done the you can consider them a hero or not. One good deed can decide if you are a hero. One bad deed can decide if you are not a hero. It all depends on what you do and how you do it. If one of these men does something bad they are critized for it and if they do something good they are congratulated it doesn't make any sense. The real heros are the ones over in Iraq, Afganistan, Iran, and the other middle east countries protecting us. Those are the true heros.
Well personally i think Brad Pitt is a hero for some of the movies that he has done, but not in the sence that he has done anything heroic. As for Tiger Woods, he used to be untill a couple months ago. In pro golf he probably is still a shining star, but with the public eye he has taken a turn for the worst. Jack Horner is very diffrent from Pitt and Woods because he discovered somthing that helped improve our knowlage of fossils. He is probably more known as a hero for his work to help improve our knowledge about Dinosaurs. Im not exactly sure about Nelson Mandela but im sure he has earned his stripes on way or another.
I agree with Sam Ny Brad Pitt and Tiger Woods are just idols, people who we idolize. They are famous for their talent in acting or being able to hit a ball in a small hole. When it comes down to it, its not that impressive. I also agree with what Austin said about the real herosm, are the people protecting others across the seas. They do alot for our country and sometimes do not get the thank you that they deserve.
I personally don't believe that any of these men are heros. Brad pitt for example may portray a hero in the movies, but he has otherwise done nothing significant in the form of a heroic act. Tiger woods has also been surrounded by less-then-heroic publicity lately and being a pro golfer isn't really heroic either. Nelson Mandela has a familiar name, but I don't know exactly who he is so I can't say for sure whether or not he's a hero. Jack Horner doesn't even remotely sound familiar so he's a mystery as well. To be a hero means to help the people for the simple reason of helping them and not for the publicity or for the money. No one listed can, in my mind, be called a hero.
I would have to agree with Melanie for about the eighty-ninth time. She seems to have the same view on the poeple listed when comparing them to heros. None of the men in my mind are heros, but then again I don't much of anything about half of the people. I have to thank Melanie for the insight into Nelson Mandela though. With what she's provided about him I'm considering labeling him under heros as well, but as for the others it seems like we have a similar view. They are not heros. Money and fame do not a hero make. Their "charity work" alone cannot rectify the wrongs they've done to further increase their own life. They should not be looked upon highly as a "role model" simply because with what they've done they don't deserve it.
I think that theses guys sybmols heros but maynot have all the qualities that we say heros have. I dont think you can really but them in a group as being heroes or not being one. Everyone in life shows their hero powers in one way or another. But i also think that Brad Pitt and Tiger Woods are less of heors then the onther two. I feel these to do more of their acts to just look good, but look at tiger Woods i feel his beavior laterly is not hero alike at all!!!!! I guess it is just your opion if you feel they are heros or not.
I agree with mel on tigers Woods behavior! I think he is not showing the best hero qualities. Ya veryone wants to help people at sometime in their lives but it takes true people to do it when someone isnt looking. I feel most of them do help people in one way or another, but i cant call them true heros.
I dont know the two middle ones but i do belive that Tiger woods is a hero to galf fans and i will agree he is a good galf player.Brad Pit well he is the hero only in movies that i know of and in some movies he is the bad guy so i gess he kinda goes both ways.
I think that Brad Pitt and Tiger woods are not heros. Brad Pitt has played parts as heros, but that does not make him a hero in real life. He might be a hero to actors in the world or women who find him attractive, but in my eyes he is just another person with acting as a career.Tiger woods is not a hero because he is also a normal person, but with golfing as a career. I think that just because he is well known does not mean that he is a hero. i think that Nelson Mandela and Jack Horner would be good influences. I am not too sure on who they are or what they did so i'm not going to say if they are hero's or not. the picture of Nelson Mandela makes him look like he was a leader in something, like he might have saved peoples lives, so I would say just by looking at the picture that he is a hero, but i'm still not too sure about Jack Horner.
I agree with how Sam ny. says "A PERSON'S OPINION IS THEIR OWN". She is right about how it depends on what any certain person thinks about who their hero is. I can say one thing while another person says another. These people are well known, but that does not make them heros.
I can't say that these people are hero's because they don't fellow the hero pattern that we talk about in class. Out of these people I could see why you could see them as hero's because they are great in the professions they are in, but in my eyes the lives they live are not heroic. Tiger Woods is a great golf player but what did he do to be a great golfer? A unually birth? I don't think so. These are normal people that do great things for people and the world.
I really dont think Brad Pitt, or Tiger Woods are heros. i think that they are more of someone that someone else looks up to because they star in movies or are a famous golfer. John Horner i would consider a hero because he discovered the first evidence that dino's care for their young. he proved something with evidence that he found, with something that was created long ago. and Nelson Mandela was the president of South Africa and to some could be considered a hero..
I agree with the other Sam because "a persons opinion is their own" you have the right to believe in whatever you want and people may say your wrong but its your opinion
Personally these men are not heroes, however they are important men. But none to compare as heroes. We idolize them and therfore they become famous and do not follow the hero pattern. I understand how one might want to believe men such as these are heros, but thats an opinion. They all have done extraordinary things. For example Brad Pitt is a wonderful actor, Nelson Mandela was president of South Africa and also an amazing activist, Jack Horner was a paleontologist, and Tiger Woods is one great athelete. But like I said none follow the hero pattern, nor stike me as men worthy of such a title.
i would say that all except nelson mandela are heroes brad pitt is a champ cuz we are both action heroes and just look he is a action hero it has it right in the name nelson he doesn't do anything he is all about peace and it's just not heroic to me jack horner is a champ and finds dinosaurs he is a hero to little kids tiger woods of course is a hero he is basically the only black guy in the pga and he hooks up with a lot of girls he is definitely a hero
in response to melanie maybe you should not be such a feminist tree hugger whoopty do that mandela did all sorts of things to bring peace to africa it's still (excuse my language) a shit hole there is basically nothin great goin on there and he hasn't changed much they all still have aids and are gonna die off pretty quick anyway so get over it
in response to melanie stop being such a feminist tree hugger mandela hasn't really done anything whoopty do he helped make it more peaceful it's still a shit hole with not much goin on there is still lots of crime and other crap and all of the africans are just dying off from aids anyway so it didn't matter what he did
I don't believe that Brad Pitt is a hero. Maybe he has done some things worth merit, but in my mind, he doesn't really deserve the title 'hero'. At the same time, one who is just a man to some, could be a hero to others. I don't think Tiger Woods is a hero, either. I think he is a bad influence on youth. He has a very strong hold of the public. He is rich, famous, and well-loved, but he doesn't do anything with all his advantages. Even be for his whole cheating-on-his-wife incident, I disliked him. He's always acted like a stuck-up pig on the golf course, cussing and throwing tirades when he doesn't get his way. I don't think he is a hero at all. Jack Horner has done a lot for modern society, made a lot of discoveries and is well known, but I don't know if I would consider him a hero. Maybe he would be by some standards, but not necessarily by mine. I think Nelson Mandela is a hero, though. He helped to stop apartheid and helped the people of South Africa greatly. Without him, there would be many things still wrong with that country, that aren't anymore. In my eyes, Nelson Mandela is a hero, but the rest of these men aren't.
ReplyDeleteNelson Mandela and Jack Horner are heroes to me. Brad Pitt and Tiger Woods are just idols, things that people worship, that they wish they were, people who people compare themselves to. Nelson Mandela is a hero to me because he went out of his comfort zone to help people less fortunate who needed him. Jack Horner is a professor at Missoula, he discovered archaeological facts about species of animals that lived before man. Jack is a Montana born man who became something, who has inspired people to do what they may think is impossible, follow their dreams. The more i am thinking about this the more i realize in their own way each of these men are heroes, they inspire people to believe in themselves and do what makes them happy, even if the cost is high. Even though i many see Pitt and Woods more as idolic icons, others may disagree with me, but i do not care for in a small way they are heroes. My definition of Hero is someone or thing that someone looks up to. So yes they are heroes yet, they are not. It is more of a mental aspect, if one person thinks someone is something then to their minds eye it is true, even if it varies for another person. A PERSON'S OPINION IS THEIR OWN!!! Personally they are all heroes in one aspect or another of MY mind.
ReplyDeletePersonally i would like to remain neutral, i agree yet disagree with what Melanie has said. Yes i can see how Pitt, Woods, and Horner would not be heroes and Mandela would be, yet i also see all of them as heroes. They could have or will impact a person's life and in that persons mind define them as Heroes, i also understand that in your eyes three out of the four are not heroes and i am not discrediting your opinion, merely adding my own opinion in as a non-biased party. I do understand where you are coming from in the 75% non-hero aspect, part of me wants to just say Woods is not a hero yet to some he might be.
ReplyDeleteI meant professor at Bozeman... oops lol...
ReplyDeleteI beleive that in society, sometimes we have a way of picking bad representation of the virtures, and qualties we admire, and strive to be. Brad Pitt, and Tiger Woods are one of them. They can someone's heros dependig on the qualities you admire, and who you strive to be. But like all heroes when it comes down to thier personal life, they mess up ...quite frequently. They are just idealistic reprentations of what we actually admire. I hav to say that Nelson Mandela has always been a hero to me, his life work, and his ideas about life. He may not show physical strength, and be a smokin hunk, but he's a hero within his words. My favorite quote of his is. " It always seems impossible, untill its done." He's amazing.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Melanie, that Sam about a hero being someone to helps a person pursue thier goals in life. INSPIRATION....< isn't that what a hero does?? Serve as a role model for other people?? It just so happens that Heroes are human too, and mess up....just like everybody else...its how you get back up and try to do right of your wrongs that you become a real hero. I think these people show how we can become heroes ourselves.
ReplyDeletethese pictures show the modern day hero in a different perspective to others the older pictures show the older people who actually did something important while brad pitt is just a movie actor who is portrayed as a hero in the movies that he has stared in.
ReplyDeleteI think that any of these men could be considered heroes depending on who is talking. I don't really think Brad Pitt or Tiger Woods are heroes by my standards, but someone else could percieve them as heroes. I don't consider Brad Pitt a hero because in my opinion, he hasn't done anything very spectacular. Tiger Woods definitely isn't a hero because of how he treated his wife. I have no respect for people who cheat on their significant other. Jack Horner is a hero because he has done so much work trying to learn how life was in the past. He has helped other people to discover dinosaurs and to achieve their dreams which is huge to me. Nelson Mandela is definitely a hero for his work with humanity. He has made a difference in so many lives in South America and has spent his life influencing others in a positive manner.
ReplyDeleteI think that any of these men could be perceived as heroes by the right person, but I only feel that Nelson Mandela and Jack Horner are heroes. Brad Pitt isn't one of my heroes because all he can do is act well. This has done nothing for humans except provide entertainment. Tiger Woods isn't one of my heroes because he cheated on his wife. This is unacceptable to me and I lost all respect for him when I heard about this. This is one of the important virtues to become a hero in my eyes. Jack Horner is a hero because of the work that he has done to explain life on earth before humans. He has helped many people to achieve their dreams in finding dinosaurs. He has also spoken to different groups of kids and has inspired them to achieve their dreams. Nelson Mandela is a hero because he has spent his life promoting equality in South Africa. This dedication to making lives better is definitely a hero trait.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Sam that any of these men could be heroes to different people. Brad Pitt could be looked up to by aspiring actors for his acting skills. He has also adopted and helped the lives of children. Tiger Woods could be admired for his golfing skills. Jack Horner has helped to inspire people to achieve their dreams. Nelson Mandela is a hero for his work with humanity in South Africa. It just depends on every person's opinion of whether or not a person is a hero. Any person could be a hero to someone, while most of the world has never heard of him. Heroes are interesting in the fact that any ordinary person can become a hero in an instant, while deities are known from birth in stories.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Ettje about Nelson Mandela being a hero. However, I disagree with her about Tiger Woods and Brad Pitt. Maybe some people might see those two men as heroes, but that doesn't mean they have heroic qualities. I agree that everyone messes up, but what makes a hero is someone that messes up, but still does good for society. Someone that people want to say, "despite those few mistakes, I still want to be like him". I don't think people could honestly say that for either of those two men, because they don't really have enough positive attributes to outweigh their bad. Also, most people would just want to be like them because they are famous and rich, and that isn't what makes a hero.
ReplyDeleteI think it all depends on how you look at these men and what they have done. Once you look at them and see what they have done the you can consider them a hero or not. One good deed can decide if you are a hero. One bad deed can decide if you are not a hero. It all depends on what you do and how you do it. If one of these men does something bad they are critized for it and if they do something good they are congratulated it doesn't make any sense. The real heros are the ones over in Iraq, Afganistan, Iran, and the other middle east countries protecting us. Those are the true heros.
ReplyDeleteWell personally i think Brad Pitt is a hero for some of the movies that he has done, but not in the sence that he has done anything heroic. As for Tiger Woods, he used to be untill a couple months ago. In pro golf he probably is still a shining star, but with the public eye he has taken a turn for the worst. Jack Horner is very diffrent from Pitt and Woods because he discovered somthing that helped improve our knowlage of fossils. He is probably more known as a hero for his work to help improve our knowledge about Dinosaurs. Im not exactly sure about Nelson Mandela but im sure he has earned his stripes on way or another.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Sam Ny Brad Pitt and Tiger Woods are just idols, people who we idolize. They are famous for their talent in acting or being able to hit a ball in a small hole. When it comes down to it, its not that impressive. I also agree with what Austin said about the real herosm, are the people protecting others across the seas. They do alot for our country and sometimes do not get the thank you that they deserve.
ReplyDeleteI personally don't believe that any of these men are heros. Brad pitt for example may portray a hero in the movies, but he has otherwise done nothing significant in the form of a heroic act. Tiger woods has also been surrounded by less-then-heroic publicity lately and being a pro golfer isn't really heroic either. Nelson Mandela has a familiar name, but I don't know exactly who he is so I can't say for sure whether or not he's a hero. Jack Horner doesn't even remotely sound familiar so he's a mystery as well. To be a hero means to help the people for the simple reason of helping them and not for the publicity or for the money. No one listed can, in my mind, be called a hero.
ReplyDeleteI would have to agree with Melanie for about the eighty-ninth time. She seems to have the same view on the poeple listed when comparing them to heros. None of the men in my mind are heros, but then again I don't much of anything about half of the people. I have to thank Melanie for the insight into Nelson Mandela though. With what she's provided about him I'm considering labeling him under heros as well, but as for the others it seems like we have a similar view. They are not heros. Money and fame do not a hero make. Their "charity work" alone cannot rectify the wrongs they've done to further increase their own life. They should not be looked upon highly as a "role model" simply because with what they've done they don't deserve it.
ReplyDeleteI think that theses guys sybmols heros but maynot have all the qualities that we say heros have. I dont think you can really but them in a group as being heroes or not being one. Everyone in life shows their hero powers in one way or another. But i also think that Brad Pitt and Tiger Woods are less of heors then the onther two. I feel these to do more of their acts to just look good, but look at tiger Woods i feel his beavior laterly is not hero alike at all!!!!! I guess it is just your opion if you feel they are heros or not.
ReplyDeleteI agree with mel on tigers Woods behavior! I think he is not showing the best hero qualities. Ya veryone wants to help people at sometime in their lives but it takes true people to do it when someone isnt looking. I feel most of them do help people in one way or another, but i cant call them true heros.
ReplyDeleteI dont know the two middle ones but i do belive that Tiger woods is a hero to galf fans and i will agree he is a good galf player.Brad Pit well he is the hero only in movies that i know of and in some movies he is the bad guy so i gess he kinda goes both ways.
ReplyDeleteI think that Brad Pitt and Tiger woods are not heros. Brad Pitt has played parts as heros, but that does not make him a hero in real life. He might be a hero to actors in the world or women who find him attractive, but in my eyes he is just another person with acting as a career.Tiger woods is not a hero because he is also a normal person, but with golfing as a career. I think that just because he is well known does not mean that he is a hero. i think that Nelson Mandela and Jack Horner would be good influences. I am not too sure on who they are or what they did so i'm not going to say if they are hero's or not. the picture of Nelson Mandela makes him look like he was a leader in something, like he might have saved peoples lives, so I would say just by looking at the picture that he is a hero, but i'm still not too sure about Jack Horner.
ReplyDeleteI agree with how Sam ny. says "A PERSON'S OPINION IS THEIR OWN". She is right about how it depends on what any certain person thinks about who their hero is. I can say one thing while another person says another. These people are well known, but that does not make them heros.
ReplyDeleteI can't say that these people are hero's because they don't fellow the hero pattern that we talk about in class. Out of these people I could see why you could see them as hero's because they are great in the professions they are in, but in my eyes the lives they live are not heroic. Tiger Woods is a great golf player but what did he do to be a great golfer? A unually birth? I don't think so. These are normal people that do great things for people and the world.
ReplyDeleteI really dont think Brad Pitt, or Tiger Woods are heros. i think that they are more of someone that someone else looks up to because they star in movies or are a famous golfer. John Horner i would consider a hero because he discovered the first evidence that dino's care for their young. he proved something with evidence that he found, with something that was created long ago. and Nelson Mandela was the president of South Africa and to some could be considered a hero..
ReplyDeleteI agree with the other Sam because "a persons opinion is their own" you have the right to believe in whatever you want and people may say your wrong but its your opinion
Personally these men are not heroes, however they are important men. But none to compare as heroes. We idolize them and therfore they become famous and do not follow the hero pattern. I understand how one might want to believe men such as these are heros, but thats an opinion. They all have done extraordinary things. For example Brad Pitt is a wonderful actor, Nelson Mandela was president of South Africa and also an amazing activist, Jack Horner was a paleontologist, and Tiger Woods is one great athelete. But like I said none follow the hero pattern, nor stike me as men worthy of such a title.
ReplyDeletei would say that all except nelson mandela are heroes brad pitt is a champ cuz we are both action heroes and just look he is a action hero it has it right in the name nelson he doesn't do anything he is all about peace and it's just not heroic to me jack horner is a champ and finds dinosaurs he is a hero to little kids tiger woods of course is a hero he is basically the only black guy in the pga and he hooks up with a lot of girls he is definitely a hero
ReplyDeletein response to melanie maybe you should not be such a feminist tree hugger whoopty do that mandela did all sorts of things to bring peace to africa it's still (excuse my language) a shit hole there is basically nothin great goin on there and he hasn't changed much they all still have aids and are gonna die off pretty quick anyway so get over it
ReplyDeletein response to melanie stop being such a feminist tree hugger mandela hasn't really done anything whoopty do he helped make it more peaceful it's still a shit hole with not much goin on there is still lots of crime and other crap and all of the africans are just dying off from aids anyway so it didn't matter what he did
ReplyDelete